I dont have to presume anything, you tell us quite plainly that this is what you think people's motives are. You're somewhat paranoid. You, "yep, when people show up using words like "death spiral" along wth RS, it's a pretty good indication they'd like to be picking up shares at lower prices". The lower prices wont come as a result of using a word, they will arrive as a consequence of Manu's inability to effectively manage shareholder value.