Replies to post #1969 on The Question and Answer Board (IHUB)

[Lisa aka Viperchick]

I agree. One needs to see that posts have have been deleted and who made the posts.. I also like it when you are viewing a reply and it says 'message deleted like on SI

also, I hate this thing of hitting next and then being taken back to the original message..I havent figured out why that happens..I think it has to do with a removed post


on the flip side..not viewing every post being deleted speeds up the process when there is no next 10 function

I also like the idea of if company XYZ wants a thread to tout their wares..then they should pay matt to do it and they can tout all they want on their thread...

wilywizard said he has been an advertiser..if he wants his own thread advertising the service he should pay matt for it because it is just one big banner ad.

then people can read it or not...and some of the controversy and doubt might be assuaged

[Was (Bob)]

Sorry. Thought you weren't in a hurry for an answer.

If I understand you correctly, what you're asking is why a deleted posts doesn't show up when browsing a message list.

I'm not sure there's any particular reason aside from trimming down the message list. Not terribly useful to also include deleted posted in there, so why bother? Also, not terribly useful to have "Next" take you to a deleted post. I mean, it's like deleted.

But, if anyone's jumping through a thread and they see that Next took them from post 83 right to post 85, and they're dying to know who wrote post 84, they can just type "84" in the message number box and hit Enter.

I think many here might be interested in having all the posts shown.

And I can guarantee you that if we did it that way, even more people would say "Why not just remove it from view if it has no contents. I wasted a click on each one of these that was deleted. They're just in the way." Or "It bugs me that SpamMeister wrote 100 posts to this board and I have to mess around with finding the first non-spam post or click Next 100 times to get to it."

Also, when you do eventually put up the HOT subjects etc., will iHub choose a company that is no way conncected with any posters or their threads so that there is no special treatment to anyone here.

I'm not sure what you're asking here, but I *think* I might. Let me know if I took off on the wrong tangent.

Hot Subjects isn't a static list that's created by some outside company. That's not the way it works on SI and that's not the way it'll work here. It's a dynamic list. Updates in realtime. And the programming for it is done in-house. I'll actually be writing that one myself because it's a bit tricky but I'm intimately familiar with the algorithm.

The hot lists will just be the realtime output of our software, just like everything else.

I don't know whether or not SI manipulates that list, but can tell you that I personally doubt it. It's more likely that there are still problems with the programming for it. There were for a long time anyway.

It's also very possible that perceived irregularities with the list are really just the viewer's misunderstanding of how the list is done. On SI, it's not a measure of a thread's activity, but a measure of a thread's current activity compared to its previous activity.

If a new thread rapidly grows to 1000 posts per day, it'll be on the hotlist. If it always gets about 1000 posts per day, it'll eventually fall off the list because there's no increase. That's SI's definition of "hot" and I agree with that definition. "Busiest" is another issue and will be addressed.

Edit: One of the things about computer programs that just read data and spit out results (like a hot list does) is that the only people who could possibly "manipulate" the output would be the programmers and database admin. And they're not interested in doing so. They're off breaking something else. <g>