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03/09/06 7:24 AM

#6447 RE: Amaunet #6446

i have to stress ,Sadr is feircely anti-Baathist, and strongly pro non-Baathist, non-secular Sunni.
I stress Sadr has Baathist on his hit list.
We can NOT now simply say pro-sunni , anti-sunni.
Precise identities are important.
Those captured were hardcore ex-soldiers of Saddam's army.
Sadr hit list is Al-Queda, Baathist(specifically those of the military).
Sadr in the past has openly printed out and posted his hit list. (It was for Hardcore Baathist, AlQueda(specifically Zarqawi) and, in general, any foreign wannabes.)

U.S. would like nothing better than classifySadr as an international terrorist but Sadr is on record, "his concern is Iraq, and only Iraq"---his dealings with Iran do not include turning Iraq into a part of Iran, he is very nationalistic)

i can't say this was necessrily Hakim, because the Sunnis captured here were in the specific hitlist of Sadr also.

But yes, it would be more likely Hakim now, YES, as for the mo, Sadr is wanting not to do anything to "freak the Sunni"---but Sadr vision for Iraq whas no place fo Baathist nor Allawist that would oppose a Sectarian Government.

This could have been Sadr or Hakim, but one it surely wasn't is the U.S., in this case.

One need know Sadr's specific vision for Iraq, and that vision ecludes Hardcore Baathist and Al Queda.
Hakim(the man closest to Sistani) and Sadr are the two most powerful men now in Iraq.
Sadr is a nationalist, Hakim is not.Sadr, also, would oppose Kurds claims on Kirkuk--i think Sadr would support Turkey against any separtist move)
But Sadr's nationalism has no place for hardcore Baathist---his father and grandfather(Both Grand Ayatollahs) were killed by the Baathist).
I need go back and dig up my rant attacking the SCIRI(in 2003) and predicting their outright BIGOTRY to the uneducated rough slum hoards of dirt poor Shi'ites in and around Baghdad was and saying it was a a great danger to Shi'ite unity.
The SCIRI fear of Sadr is the result of their OWN, "O those Baghdad riff-raff"
( this is why it was a rant, i was furious when i picked up on this entrenched classicism within the Shi'ite world, i was also mad that prople like Juan Cole and Dreyfuss at that time were talking of "riff-raff' that Sadr, this thug, represented--Cole has grown much wiser)
This is when i said one need understand the over 2million populace of Sadr City, one need think of Algiers.

SCIRI view of Sadr's people, is like middle class New Yorkers view of people thst live in Trailer Parks.
i , mtself, am disgusted by people that think that way.
And that is how the Najaf snobs think regards those that follow Sadr.
This is is why Sadr commands so much loyalty.
He has the devotion for him because he cares about them, SCIRI didn't.

Regards SECTARIAN Sunnis, they will simply state Sadr isthe only Shi'ite they cold ever trust.





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otraque

03/09/06 7:31 AM

#6448 RE: Amaunet #6446

China, hitting back, slams US rights abuses By Ben Blanchard and Chris Buckley
Thu Mar 9, 1:28 AM ET



BEIJING (Reuters) - China hit back at U.S. criticism of its human rights record on Thursday, unveiling its own report detailing U.S. rights abuses, while Chinese activists issued a critical look at their own country's restricted freedoms.


The Chinese report, issued by the State Council, or Cabinet, takes aim at U.S. democracy -- calling it "a game for the rich" -- the high murder rate, domestic wire tapping and detention of Iraqi reporters by U.S. forces in Iraq.

"We urge the United States government to face squarely their own human rights problems, reflect on their own actions, take practical measures and improve their human rights situation," the report, carried by the official Xinhua news agency, said.

Other abuses involved "secret snooping, police abuse, wrong convictions and the highest ratio of people behind bars," it said.

But a group of Chinese lawyers and rights activists said in their own report there were modest expansions of some freedoms in 2005, though many citizens' rights remained narrow, fragile or non-existent.

"Relative to economic development and social progress, the government has not done enough to actively protect and expand civic rights," said the report issued by the Open Constitution Initiative, an independent organization that investigates claims of rights violation and pushes policy change.

"Progress in Chinese citizens' political rights has been quite modest, and especially freedom of expression and of faith have become even more restricted," said the Chinese report, which was given to Reuters.

A prominent legal activist who helped write the report said it was intended to stimulate public debate among Chinese citizens, and to emphasize that they -- not Washington -- must be the engine of change.

The activist Xu Zhiyong told Reuters the timing of the report's release, immediately after the U.S. State Department issued its 2006 human rights report that dwelt on China, was intended to send that message.

"We wanted to emphasize that Chinese citizens must be involved in these issues; that it's not just a matter for Washington or for diplomacy," he said.

CENSORSHIP

The U.S. State Department said on Wednesday that China had increased its censorship of the Internet and of media critics last year and that harassment and detention of those challenging the authorities had grown.

The annual report is usually swiftly rejected by China, which says its human rights definition differs from the West, insisting that the basic rights of its 1.3 billion people to food, clothing and housing take precedence over individual civil liberties.

"The United States has always boasted itself as the model of democracy and hawked its mode of democracy to the rest of the world, but in fact, American 'democracy' is always one for the wealthy and a 'game for the rich'," it said.

The United States should also "rectify their method of using human rights questions to create international confrontation," the report said.

"We disapprove of countries meddling in other countries' domestic affairs," added Chinese Foreign Minister Li Zhaoxing in reaction to the U.S. report, speaking to reporters on the sidelines of the annual meeting of parliament.

China's report quoted widely from U.S. media, including the Washington Post, New York Times and CNN, detailing human rights abuses.

Beijing often criticizes many of these same foreign media outlets for their biased coverage of China.

The report also quoted the Committee to Protect Journalists in detailing the cases of four Iraqi reporters locked away by the United States in Iraq.

The same group named China as the world's leading jailer of journalists for the seventh consecutive year in 2005 with 32 behind bars.

(Additional reporting by Chris Buckley)


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otraque

03/09/06 8:28 AM

#6451 RE: Amaunet #6446

In the land of the Free????????
ergo sum post got me flashing back to an earlier post that i post again.
This falls under FC, as our kicking-ass world wide need known is being done by a major violator of Human Rights itself--moving ever so steadily to a Totalitarian Police State.
<<Posted by: otraque
In reply to: Earnie Adams who wrote msg# 3716 Date:5/18/2005 7:09:01 PM
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How evil is the "3 strikes and your out" law? I dedicate this post to Arthutr LEE, and am at least grateful he got out after 6 YEARS behind bars and then smartly moved to England and started a new band and was a rousing success in England--and he was 60 years old when he started to comeback!!! That is guts!!!!
i happen to be deeply music involved, in the the 60s there was a brilliant creative artist called ARTHUR LEE, his album "Forever Changes"now, decades after the fact is FINALLY being recognized for the masterpiece of Psychedelia that it in fact always was.
He was the primary writer,composer, vocalist for the group named LOVE.
But he was genius that didn't want stardom, he was a genius that didn't desire to go on tours.
And he then faded into obscurity. And years later the LAW came crashing down on him for 3 misdemeanors, the fact he was like BLACK ya know of course had nothing to do with this-- LIKE SURE.


<<<< DY: Why did you do the 'Free ARTHUR LEE' single?
IAN: ARTHUR LEE was the singer in the sixties band Love, and he's been making records ever since. I've seen him a couple of times and he's really fantastic. But he's really a symbol of people's complacency, someone who's not party of the industry hierarchy. He's not like David Crosby, who's totally inured within the industry. He's not somebody like Lou Reed, some little industry hack like that. ARTHUR LEE didn't fit within the cause of the industry quite as well, and therefore he's been relegated to the junk pile. Americans on the junk pile eventually end up in prison. It's a traditional class thing - the poor end up in prison for misdemeanours. He happens to be in prison for possession of a hand gun. It's part of the 'Three Strikes and Your Out' law, so called. Which means after three misdemeanours you're treated as a felon and given hard time. If ARTHUR LEE was part of the Industry he wouldn't have been put in prison, y'know. I'm just saying that in America prison is a private industry, and it's in the interests of that industry to keep people in prison as long as possible, to make sure they're coming back. Because for each person in prison they're getting more stipends from the government. Similarly, overcrowding of prisons is better for them. You have to remember these are the laws of capitalism. Because of these privitisations of prison, America has more people per capita in prison than any other country. There are several million people in prison in America. It's something like 1% of the population. It's crazy! A lot of them are in prison for marijauna possession, it's absurd.>>>>