ken, I read your post on Woodies and was trying to figure out what bars he was using for the 6+ or 6- bars to determing trend...I stuck in a 5/10/15 Histo bar which looks similar. Evidently the guy is very successfulm but I think trading the 5 min chart you could use Dan's 3/7 cross and do just as well.. I would put Dan up against Woodie any day..And anyone else on this board..(well maybe FOOT)