kilerb, it appears you are starting to get the bigger picture here one alias/long states they received an email from winick containing all types of particulars that longs would love to hear...and it is applauded <A HREF="http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=9770579" target="_blank">http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=9770579</A> yet another honest long seeking to confirm the above receives an email from winick that essentially states he never stated such...and it is quietly swept under the carpet <A HREF="http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=9797028" target="_blank">http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=9797028</A> so do you think it might be possible that lies, deceit and rope-a-dope tactics are being employed by some? meanwhile the post deletions without cause continue...and the posts that contain blatant TOS violations remain ...and it getting worse by the day <img src=http://www.flyingpigs.com/salute.gif>