Syl, I didn't intend to imply that my trend stuff will nail a top. Not even close. What is happening right now is typical. If I veer from the trend, I might nail the trend change. If I stay with the trend, I will definitely miss the top or bottom. So I sinned and veered. But its a high risk maneauver because you never now how much farther the trend will go, and I am pretty good at finding the turn in 2 trading days, so its only if i get stubborn that I get hurt