And generally they both look just as over the top ridiculous.
Don't you look at bashers on the boards you actually invest in and think something a long the lines of "something is really wrong with that person". Well, that person is now you.
You aren't "saving" anyone. People will decide without your input for themselves.
I am willing to say most people invested don't really give one care about the company or it's products. They are just here waiting on a RIP. RIPs have nothing to do with value.