i undesrtand that whatever happens in ca will have ramification sin mo, in. also i am right about 40% of lead is from vernon, i will try to dig up unless it was 40% of total comes from recycling. as far as headache about califirnia, do you think the regulators care? taxpayers money and let the other departmnet deal with it. if they thiought of the ramficatins, they won't be talking crap like this. as i said they are far reaching reg and will be a long one. election time. from tommorrow's meeting, you will see flood of negative pr and talk about shutdown.