I agree. I've been here forever, it seems, since long before the rs. I'm not sure that people who trade regularly on this level know what to think of epgl. I think there are a huge number of day traders at this level and I think this company confuses them. For one thing, it's a real company, and real companies behave a little different from p and d's. Most of the pinks I've seen are just a step away from being fraudulent, IMHO. But that isn't the case with epgl. And that is why some of us are going to do very well with our investment. just because you're in the toilet doesn't mean you belong there.