I think I finally get it. I have witnessed in the past few days how ILST has been pumped by many here. http://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/ILST/quote Please note the Donnell is now there from Q as a Corp Sec. I use to think that some here were above investing in scams. Now, they only talk trash about scams or possible scams that they may of lost money in. Q, Ran through the back door by Joe and Donnell. They are very smart and find a leak in NHSH. Take it over and let it delist. Q is at .0001, ILST just went CE, and the third part being GDSM which was again pumped by people here is at .0001 as well. Yes, I invested money. I may lose it as well. What I am saying, is when is a scam a scam? When it really is? Or when you lose money in it? Or, should I say, When is a scam not a scam? When we are invested in it and made money on it? I think, it matters not about what is right or wrong to most. Rather how much money one can make from it. And at the expense of the next bag holder. I had the upmost respect for, Cat, SS, PT. Now I get it. I wish everyone a safe holiday season. Let the PA begin.