Only in some religious wacknuts is abortion murder. Unlike you I don't believe in forcing a woman to carry a baby to term, I'm not in her shoes and thankfully you aren't either. It's not your effing decision and it's legal in civilized countries. You're mindset doesn't care about people once they are born - as a matter of fact you make it tougher for them. That's why 45,000 people dying because they should die because they don't have health insurance says more than I want to know about you. Unfortunately you have spawned children and I only hope they are nothing like you but I suspect the apple does not fall far from the tree.