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Re: MoreOver post# 43807

Wednesday, 09/25/2013 6:58:21 PM

Wednesday, September 25, 2013 6:58:21 PM

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My rebuttal

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1) Installing "new management" does not magically absolve a company from it's liabilities such as lawsuits. The only way to discharge those would be to fight, settle or file for bankruptcy.

Take into account the plaintiff in the lawsuit, enough said. I note that you did not refute my point. The merits of any particular case notwithstanding

2) "Before Clark took over he had his own company already in the works." True, he claims he founded iPointTV in August 2008. And over FIVE YEARS LATER he still hasn't managed to make it profitable. He founded "Ortiz Media Group" almost 20 years ago. It is listed as "Owner of IPTV company called iPoint Television, llc. (www.iPoint.tv)" and he claims "the brand name is worth +$10 Million w/ Affiliate franchises in 22 states in the USA, sold globally in 14 countries." www.linkedin.com/in/clarkortiz

Ipoint was founded as an extension of his ministry. His MAIN goal through ipoint is to spread the gospel, not to be extremely profitable. However his experience and connections in the media world and through the development of ipoint helps us here in being able to get this off the ground. Is iPoint still primarily a "ministry?" Do investors realize that?

Mighty impressive until you realize that the house Ortiz lived in --which was also the address for these companies as well as Ortiz Media Group"-- was foreclosed on in 2009 due to his inability to pay his mortgage. The case is still in the courts. investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=88252262

Millions upon millions of SUCCESFUL family's lost their homes in foreclosure from 2004-2009. The fact, if it is a fact (un-verified by me) that he didn't go to foreclosure until 2009 shows that he is a fighter, not a failure. He worked hard to save his home, probably for many years, and didn't let it go till the end of the housing downturn. After he lost his home, if true, is most likely where he decided to use his skill set to do both misister(ipoint) and make money(TDEY). [color=red]Minister/ faith healer Ortiz's home was appraised in 2009-2012 (for tax purposes) at $598,680. It's located in one of the most affluent areas of the greater Dallas-Ft Worth area. It's has just been re-valued at $645k. Satellite view shows the pool and spa being a green, slime filled mosquito breeder. IMO the problem was he was likely living beyond his means. Apparently the combined revenues of Ortiz Media Group, Inc., La Familia Network, iPoint Television, LLC and Clark Ortiz Ministries --all run from this same house-- were insufficient to pay his mortgage which is still in the courts (see page 5) http://docs.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/texas/txndce/4:2013cv00027/227685/9/. It's ALSO the current address of his Swordfish Financial [SWRF] http://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/SWRF/company-info -AND- the registered corporate address of TDEY[/color]

3) A "pump is a pump" regardless of whether it's paid or not, in writing or verbal, made in person or by surrogates. It is the duty of management to shoot down any unfounded rumors and speculation when they see such things going on. To willfully turn a blind eye to false statements made by others --especially when it causes an unwarranted rise in the stock-- is to be complicit in the deception.

I don't necessarily disagree with the first sentence of this statement. However, clark did shoot down the false netflix rumor, via twitter, included a screenshot of his phone when he received the text about it. Kudos to him for doing his job on that.

All of the information that has come out, through the non-paid pumping sites, has been true and verifiable. Clark has been true to his timeline, even surprised us with the beta version of the app. If the insiders were pumping, don't you think he would have let the beta news out of the bag weeks before it happened? To further this point, where are all the fluff PRs that come from a P&D, oh wait, they aren't there. What about the insider shares to dump into the market, I don't see those either. As far as "pumps" go.. I think it's possible to do so indirectly with the expectation that readers will fill in the blanks. Case in point being the multiple "Industry Overviews" the company cites and thereby implies it is destined to enjoy a slice of the pie. I also take issue with statements that "TDEY is going to do this and that" without ever giving a date certain (i.e. when it expects all those $7.95 monthly subscriptions to start rolling in. "Indirect pumps" IMO.

You will never here me fight you that EV isnt a scumbag, I believe he is. This is why I believe clark left that other stock. Yes, EV is a director of TDEY, how ever being a director in a company this size means you have a voice, not ANY power to do anything except potentially influence the actions of the CEO, which is Clark, not EV. My personal opinion is that EV will part ways with TDEY one way or another within the next six months, there is too much ACTUAL business for his scams to work here. Does that mean that Ortiz personally orchestrated the massive increase in authorized shares last month from 900 million to 2.2 BILLION.. at roughly the same time Eddie Vakser did with PRPM (Vakser only upped PRPM by 1/3rd.. not more than double like TDEY). IMO that's a pretty major development so why was that not filed as "News" with OTC? Why does OTC still only report 900 million shares instead of the TRUTH? Isn't it Ortiz's job to update such info in a timely manner? Who owns/ controls those 1.3 billion new shares?

Eddie Vakser and TDEY go back years. Here's an example of their longstanding relationship dating back to Jan 29, 2010.. back when convicted SEC "pump-and-dumper" Marc Jablon was actively running the scam:

3D Eye Solutions, Inc. Signs License Agreement with Artfest International, Inc. Bringing 3-D Technology to Fine Arts and Sports Memorabilia Industry
3D Eye Solution's Cutting-Edge Technology to be Showcased at Art Fest Expo Center in Dallas. http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/3d-eye-solutions-inc-signs-license-agreement-with-artfest-international-inc-bringing-3-d-technology-to-fine-arts-and-sports-memorabilia-industry-83022452.html

ARTS was revoked by the SEC this spring. PRPM is at no bid. Eddie has recently added the roles of "President and SR VP" to his Chairmanship at TDEY. It doesn't sound like he has any intention of leaving to me. It appears he's digging in.

We're entitled to our own opinions --but not our own facts.

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