Joe, it seems there are even more rumours than I thought. Here is yet another possibility: # Windsor AMD Athlon 64 FX-62 (2,833 Ghz 1 MB)) AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (2,667 Ghz 512 KB) AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800+ (2,5 Ghz 1 MB) AMD Athlon 64 X2 4600+ (2,5 Ghz 512 KB) AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ (2,333 Ghz 512 KB) # Orleans AMD Athlon 64 4000+ (2,5 Ghz 1 MB) AMD Athlon 64 3800+ (2,5 Ghz 512 KB) AMD Athlon 64 3500+ (2,333 Ghz 512 KB) # Manila Sempron 3600+ (2,333 Ghz 256 KB) Sempron 3500+ (2,333 Ghz 128 KB) Sempron 3400+ (2,167 Ghz 256 KB) Sempron 3200+ (2,0 Ghz 256 KB) Sempron 3000+ (2,0 Ghz 128 KB) It is obvious that three out of the four variants must be wrong. I´m wondering who made up the rest, and why. --- What´s your strategy for the Q4 earnings day, will you sell before it, hold, what´s your plan? --- On another note, Opteron now holds the top 3 spots in MSFT´s MMB3: <A HREF="http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/evaluation/performance/default.mspx" target="_blank">http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/evaluation/performance/default.mspx</A>