I think under .25 between now and early 2014 is possible anymore its because they one of their revenue streams exceeds even PMCM's expectations $1-5 dollars from mid 2014 - late 2015 better happen or we and the PMCM magnet have wasted a lot effort, time and money I urge all to buy what you can afford and check the stock a every few months, enjoy your life's and go play other stocks