PP - Have you ever played with Heikin Ashi style charts? <A HREF="http://www.investopedia.com/articles/technical/04/092204.asp" target="_blank">http://www.investopedia.com/articles/technical/04/092204.asp</A> I have been playing with them some and they look very tantalizing. Here is RBAK in Heikin Ashi. Edit: The red/green bars below the candlesticks show crossovers of the 5 and 9 day weighted MAs and ADX, in that order. They are both still green. <img src=http://members.cox.net/snaphook/RBAK1.PNG>