Thursday, January 05, 2006 4:01:15 PM
Re: Show me a benchmark where you stitch together 50,000 x 50,000 pixel images with 32-bits.
Explain why consumers would even care. The largest consumer cameras are 8MP, which is about 2,800 pixels per side.
Re: Which has a higher latency: a CPU unterrupt or a disk seek? You may finish sooner but it's still a lousy way to work.
Install 1GB of memory, and disk swapping for consumer apps almost disappears, even when you are running multiple apps. This seems to be a concept you keep on trying to steer away from, as you bring up more far fetched examples using your engineering office friends.
Re: >... 88% improvement in 3DStudio Max, the 87% improvement
> in Adobe Premier, the 36% improvement in Adobe Photoshop, the
> 65% improvement in DVD Shrink, the 64% improvement in WME,
> the 65% improvement in Quicktime encoding, the 64%
> improvement in iTunes, and the 12% improvement in Quake IV....
I did read that and I will give that to you. I think that I mentioned most of those anyways.
If you read it and acknowledge it, then why would you ask if consumers need more horse power in Word or Excel? The above are all real world, popular, CPU intensive applications that need a performance boost more than anything else. Yet you are glossing over these while insisting on the performance of stitching together 50k x 50k pixel images. There are probably only a hand full of people in the world who need to do that, and they probably work for NASA and Google.
Re: And then there's the really big application:
PowerPoint which can be slow depending on what you're doing
I've worked with foil sets of several hundred slides chock full of images, sound, animation, and video, and I have little problem running it on my 1.6GHz Banias based Centrino with 1GB of memory. At its slowest, the presentation lags between slides for a split second, but other than that, most operations are instantaneous.
Re: Theoretically, if you're going to rip a DVD, you'd be better off with x64 dual core than x32 dual core if you did the programming right. As you could take advantage of the additional SIMD registers to keep more working data in registers. Were those benchmarks done with 32-bit software or 64-bit software on the X2s?
The benchmarks were done in 32-bit, because 64-bit binaries don't exist for any of them, which is one of my big points. Multithreaded software is here, while 64-bit software isn't!
Re: 80 GB system (Main Memory) RamDisk with Virus Scan and Microsoft Office on a 64-bit system vs a Dual-Core system. Your hard-drive latency will kill the dual-core system.
How much is an 80GB Ramdisk? I am guessing prohibitively expensive.
Explain why consumers would even care. The largest consumer cameras are 8MP, which is about 2,800 pixels per side.
Re: Which has a higher latency: a CPU unterrupt or a disk seek? You may finish sooner but it's still a lousy way to work.
Install 1GB of memory, and disk swapping for consumer apps almost disappears, even when you are running multiple apps. This seems to be a concept you keep on trying to steer away from, as you bring up more far fetched examples using your engineering office friends.
Re: >... 88% improvement in 3DStudio Max, the 87% improvement
> in Adobe Premier, the 36% improvement in Adobe Photoshop, the
> 65% improvement in DVD Shrink, the 64% improvement in WME,
> the 65% improvement in Quicktime encoding, the 64%
> improvement in iTunes, and the 12% improvement in Quake IV....
I did read that and I will give that to you. I think that I mentioned most of those anyways.
If you read it and acknowledge it, then why would you ask if consumers need more horse power in Word or Excel? The above are all real world, popular, CPU intensive applications that need a performance boost more than anything else. Yet you are glossing over these while insisting on the performance of stitching together 50k x 50k pixel images. There are probably only a hand full of people in the world who need to do that, and they probably work for NASA and Google.
Re: And then there's the really big application:
PowerPoint which can be slow depending on what you're doing
I've worked with foil sets of several hundred slides chock full of images, sound, animation, and video, and I have little problem running it on my 1.6GHz Banias based Centrino with 1GB of memory. At its slowest, the presentation lags between slides for a split second, but other than that, most operations are instantaneous.
Re: Theoretically, if you're going to rip a DVD, you'd be better off with x64 dual core than x32 dual core if you did the programming right. As you could take advantage of the additional SIMD registers to keep more working data in registers. Were those benchmarks done with 32-bit software or 64-bit software on the X2s?
The benchmarks were done in 32-bit, because 64-bit binaries don't exist for any of them, which is one of my big points. Multithreaded software is here, while 64-bit software isn't!
Re: 80 GB system (Main Memory) RamDisk with Virus Scan and Microsoft Office on a 64-bit system vs a Dual-Core system. Your hard-drive latency will kill the dual-core system.
How much is an 80GB Ramdisk? I am guessing prohibitively expensive.
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