mlsoft and integ, I think you are well aware of my intent with the 10% number. The real haters. On both sides. If you are correct and I am wrong there is no point in discussing peace. The question then would become one of hate that is generated towards the US. When one considers that nuclear weapon technology is over 50 years old it is just a matter of time before this hate gets these weapons. What then? I have repeatedly said that my main oppostion to our actions in Iraq is that we are fueling this hate. I doubt that we will be able to make Iraq a "Shining Light". Maybe this time is different and GW is correct in his policy. We shall see. Mushroom season is about to start where I live. The only ones I like are the wild Morels in the woods, not the large ones on the horizon.