that is a good way to put it...if anyone wants to describe the loyal longs here as a "force" that kept the price from plummeting during the dark times thats fine, but the only "force" holding our price down is the fact that nobody knows about us yet (and therefore almost nobody outside of this board is buying our stock)...once we get some exposure 0.0045 will be a steal, especially considering we settled with one of our debt holders for stock options priced at 0.005 and 0.01....they wouldn't accept options unless they had some type of assurance from the CEO that we will eclipse those prices at some point