I hope for most of the longs here that this is a real venture and you make a bucket of cash in the end. That's what I hope for as well. However,after 1 1/2 years of the price steadily declining,Hundreds of millions of shares being sold,Being halted and relegated to the greys and Toms silence..... If it looks like a duck,quacks like a duck and swims like a duck...IT PROBABLY IS A DUCK!!! I HATE thieves and I hope SOMEONE gets in trouble for it!!!!!! GLTE-3