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Re: Ace Hanlon post# 5881

Friday, 12/16/2005 12:26:07 PM

Friday, December 16, 2005 12:26:07 PM

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i read the original quote of Mahoud Ahmadidenad and his original is in line with what is being said here.
What he said is he knows that people who deny the holocaust go to jail, that he didn't know what the truth was but if the truth is that there was indeed a Holocaust, then why did Palestine have to pay the price fot a heinous crime committed by the europeans????? That if the holocaust the reality then europe bears the guilt, not Palestine, and they should create a country for Israel---this then got twisted by Israeli press screaming he unequivacally denies the holocaust and ignoring TOTALLY the hard cold fact that the EVIL OF HOLOCAUST WAS AN ACT BY non-semitic white european people, that jews endsed up piling into Palestine because the EUROPEANS.
The entire horror of the Middle-East is totally a result of the unspeakable EVIL of western europeans, and Jews have allied themselves with those that drove to kill them, and shifted the EVIL OF THE HOLOCAUST from the white non-semitic people, to the semites of the Middle East.
Pardon me for saying this is insane---this is a bait and switch worthy of the Bush regime.
And i remind the zionist movement was a small movement until europeans started the annihilation of the jews( German Nazis had millions of non Deustch supporters thru out europe, the guilt is all of europe, except Demmark, and whomever others can offer.)
What is called the 2nd Exodus was a result of a people running for their lives from the european world had did there best to annihilate them.
The Jews arriving in Israel at the 2nd Exodus, were desperate, savagely traumatized, there race to Israel was a race for to breath, what did these people know that a people was already there(a people in the chains of the British Colonism)
How twisted history becomes, how bizarre stories are rewritten to change the facts.
BTW, nothing is more vacuous then Israelis claim the land was there's because of the Balfour Accord, which was but an accord written by imperialist making rulings on land that wasn't theirs to begin with, that is as bad as saying it was theirs because G-d gave it to them, and to hell with those that lived there for 2,000 years)
The Factoid .The Holocaust that annihilated Jews and the Roma(more Roma were killed as a % of their population than Jews, but let us not delve on the what the the Roma call the The Devouring, like, their just gypsies right??!!! Like they don't have a bible that says they have land somewhere that was bestowed to them by the great Real Estate Agent in the sky called Gawd, so f--- them, right???!!!!! They are not chosen, they're just human riff-raff, right????!!!!!!
With that angry sarcasm, can't people get a handle of just how insane all this is.
A nod to Yeshahuya Leibowitz, that DARED say the worship of land was IDOLATRY, and this man was a zionist, a zionist that took that side of the Palestinians, saying Israel would LOSE its soul with their occupation of Israel.

<<Iran Official Recasts Holocaust Comments By NICHOLAS PAPHITIS, Associated Press Writer
Fri Dec 16, 7:46 AM ET



ATHENS, Greece - The Iranian president's widely condemned remarks about Israel and the Holocaust were "misunderstood" by Western governments, Iran's interior minister said Friday.
Speaking on the sidelines of an Athens conference on immigration, Mostafa Pur Mohammadi told The Associated Press: "Actually the case has been misunderstood. (President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad) did not mean to raise this matter.

"He wanted to say that if certain people have created troubles for the Jewish community they should bear the expenses, and it is not others who should pay for that."

Ahmadinejad's comments Wednesday drew quick condemnations from Israel, the United States and Europe, which warned he is hurting Iran's position in talks aimed at resolving suspicions about his regime's nuclear program.

During a tour of southeastern Iran, Ahmadinejad said that if Europeans insist the Holocaust occurred, then they are responsible and should pay the price.

"Today, they have created a myth in the name of Holocaust and consider it to be above God, religion and the prophets," Ahmadinejad told thousands of people in Zahedan. "If you committed this big crime, then why should the oppressed Palestinian nation pay the price?" (edit; That is a FAIR QUESTION--- otraque)

"This is our proposal: If you committed the crime, then give a part of your own land in Europe, the United States, Canada or Alaska to them so that the Jews can establish their country," he said in remarks carried live by state television.

In October, he provoked an international outcry by calling for Israel to be "wiped off the map."

European Union leaders meeting in Brussels, Belgium, warned in a draft statement Friday Ahmadinejad's remarks could be grounds for sanctions against Iran.

"These comments are wholly unacceptable and have no place in civilized political debate," the draft statement said.

Inside Iran, moderates have called on the Islamic cleric-led regime to rein in the president. His election in June sealed the long decline of Iran's reform movement, which had largely dropped the harsh anti-Israeli and anti-U.S. rhetoric of the 1979 Islamic Revolution and sought to build international ties.

Nations across the world have condemned Ahmadinejad's remarks. The White House said his words "only underscore why it is so important that the international community continue to work together to keep Iran from developing nuclear weapons."

Israel's Foreign Ministry said the comments illustrated "the mind-set of the ruling clique in Tehran and indicate clearly the extremist policy goals of the regime."

Benita Ferrero-Waldner, EU external relations commissioner, called Ahmadinejad's views "absolutely irresponsible." Denying the Holocaust -- in which 6 million Jews died during World War II at Nazi hands -- is a crime in several European nations.

China, which maintains good relations with both Iran and Israel, said such remarks could undermine world stability.

"We are not in favor of any remarks detrimental to stability and peace," Foreign Ministry spokesman Qin Gang said Thursday. "Israel is a sovereign state."

Moscow did not directly criticize Ahmadinejad but condemned any attempts to deny the Holocaust and said it was necessary to restate Moscow's "principled position."

"Speculation on these themes runs contrary to the principles of the U.N. Charter and the opinion of the world community," the Russian Foreign Ministry said.

Arab governments appeared reluctant to condemn Ahmadinejad. In Saudi Arabia, government-controlled newspapers picked up the remarks from international news agencies but did not comment on them.>>





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