I agree MUK and I think ORMT(no Q in the future hopefully)is worth holding on to. I still feel if the Q drops, PPS will go up, but it all depends on the power supply rate and re-negoiated contracts with labor (like you said MUK). I just hope they do not do a Hostess and be hard headed. But maybe not, because the unions thought they had Hostess against the wall and they all lost their jobs because they were not willing to negoiate. So maybe Ormet will learn from the Hostess workers mistakes.