Zeev's Turnips Talk Politics (ZTTP)

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Not true and again I have a hard time believing that we read the same book.

Cosby is different from malcolm x because he espouses that blacks strive to succeed in the society that we live in while malcolm x wanted blacks to separate themselves and was very negative toward white folks.

Negative towards white folks? Hmm... I find this a bizarre statement given that he grew up in an era in which he could not drink at the same water fountain as white people. You would not have had a negative opinion towards white folks if you were in his shoes??

There were three phases in Malcom's fight after his conversion to Islam. The book was VERY clear about that.

Phase one: Follower of the Nation of Islam.

Phase two: A transition period

Phase three: what some call the period of true Islam. I agree that the Nation of Islam was not true Islam. The theoretical part was non sense. Not sure what else the label "true Islam" is meant to imply.

In phase one he was a Separatist. During his trip to Mecca he saw Black people enfranchised in society. He saw Black people flying commercial airplanes and many other things Blacks were not allowed to do at that time in America. He also saw this in a context of Muslims of all colors including people with white skin. After he finally publicly broke with the Nation of Islam and announced that he would form his own group he renounced his separatism by first saying that if John Brown were alive John Brown could join his new organization. I assume the offer extended to John Browns sons who died along with John Brown. Later he said that white groups could work constructively in a limited fashion with his new organization.

Malcom X is perhaps the most misquoted person in American history IMO.

Malcom was no longer a separatist after his trip to Mecca. His Autobiography made this VERY clear.