If short...... tune stochastic to 5-3-3 to find the bottom. <A HREF="http://www.askresearch.com/cgi-bin/chart?symbol=CIEN&exchange=USA&size=640x480&months=3+months&type=Candle&color=Graph+Paper&scale=Logarithmic&moving1=50+day&moving2=None&moving3=None&moving=bollinger&bollinger=20+day&ind_vol=on&ind_sto=on&sto=5-3-3&wpr=12&rsi=8&macd=8-17-9&roc=16-8&mfi=13&refresh=180" target="_new">http://www.askresearch.com/cgi-bin/chart?symbol=CIEN&exchange=USA&size=640x480&months=3+...</A> 20 or below is bottomish. Reid