also I would expect the growth with these 2 new revenue generators to be explosive as they ramp up I used as just an example before, 450 million above expenses taxes etc, would result in an .01 eps with a 20p/e would be .20 cents my bet is although they may not have now, I bet by dec they have that revenue coming in. and then again maybe they have it now any green eps makes this worth way more than what it is now, bottom line..look around..see the junk that trades higher with nothing to show. gotta go have a good weekend