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Re: SOROS post# 203014

Saturday, 04/27/2013 8:51:34 PM

Saturday, April 27, 2013 8:51:34 PM

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SOROS - "Abortion not used as birth control" .. you made that up, i didn't equate the two .. to suggest i did was simply another passive-aggressive act by you .. i've noticed it's a favorite ruse of yours, and see it as an ignorant and disingenuous ploy .. in fact in your saying abortion is used as birth control birth in the USA you are the one who has suggested any equivalence between the two .. that on your part is imo an arrogant and ignorance assumption on your part .. i'd say it's nonsense, and a put down of women .. i'd say the situation re women, abortion and birth control in your country would be somewhat similar to that of women's views in Australia .. here is one piece of evidence that you are dead wrong ..

Abortion not used as birth control

MILES KEMP
The Advertiser
June 03, 2010 12:01AM

A 10-YEAR Adelaide study has busted the myth that women use abortion as birth control.

A Flinders University study of 965 women over 30 who used Adelaide's largest abortion clinic found 62 per cent were using contraception when they became pregnant.

Nursing and Midwifery researcher Wendy Abigail said the vast majority of the remainder of women also had not wanted to become pregnant.

She said they were not using contraception for dozens of reasons such as: cultural bans, thinking they could never have children, having been raped or having had what was thought to have been "permanent" birth-control surgery.

Ms Abigail blamed primarily male politicians for perpetuating the myth that women used termination as a convenience rather than for emotional and medical reasons.

"People have preconceived ideas which relate to education, what their friends think and what their own values are," she said.

"These comments are not based on research but on personal and societal views.

"There are so many shades of grey, though right-to-life people portray it as a black-and-white issue."

Ms Abigail said the finding, which was published in the Australian Journal of Primary Health, added to earlier research that showed 70 per cent of women under 30 were also on contraception when they became pregnant and then sought a termination.

She said further research was needed to find out how many of the women who were not using contraception also did not want to become pregnant.

"There are many reasons why women don't use contraception, for instance domestic violence situations where the man controls what contraception is used," Ms Abigail said.

"Just because women are not using contraception doesn't mean they want to get pregnant.

"That's what we need the additional research for and hard facts."

She said the current research also dispelled the myth that termination was increasingly being used for convenience, with no significant changes in trends of conception used during the study period 1996-2006.

Ms Abigail said evidence of the failure of birth control used by the women in the study could be used to reduce the number of unwanted pregnancies.

"Contraception does have a failure rate and with the change in fertility patterns, policies and health promotion activities need to be further developed to address this, particularly for women aged over 30 years," she said.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/abortion-not-used-as-birth-control/story-e6frea83-1225874718678

.. do you have any credible research in support of your anti-women stance on that question?

My post to you was in regard to your kooky personhood position.

It was Plato who said, “He, O men, is the wisest, who like Socrates, knows that his wisdom is in truth worth nothing”

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