Advanced Micro Devices Inc (AMD)

[pgerassi]

Dear Keith:

Yet I was proven right! There are sub 35W DC Opterons in the public domain sold to real customers. Yonah uses more power than that. No test has yet been performed to see how much the Yonah actually used (just the system power in one preview prior to any actual sales) even by measuring what that sample Yonah (probably was cherry picked for reviewers given Intel's past track record) actually pulled from the 12V VRM input. Yonah isn't even out yet and you compare it to desktop CPUs made much earlier and on a MB with much higher capabilities than the Yonah MB (it uses a different 479pin socket so even the MB it uses isn't out yet).

No you are the one who is making laughable comments that didn't prove true. Like 89W Opterons aren't good enough for laptop use. Wrong! Your logic failed! Your so called evidence is refuted by real world results. Thus your points must have been idiotic. There are A64 X2 3800+s (and higher) with TDPmax less than 35W in the field bought by real customers from real retail shops in the real world.

Your points are lacking in credibility. They failed in the present and that is the real test. You can get 939 pin DC Opterons and A64 X2s in laptops using less than 35W TDPmax right now. Since 35W (and 25W) Turions are in T&L laptops, AMD could make DC Turions right now (just place the same die (the DC opteron or A64 X2) on 754 pin mobile packages) and those would fit T&L laptops. The timing of the DC Turion release is up to AMD, since technically, they can do it right now, your incredulity not withstanding.

Pete