I have an idea.....Maybe it would be a good idea to have a machine on display in Sausalito so we could go see if if we wanted to. Maybe....MZEI will attend another symposium, seminar, whatever, and display a machine.....just so we know it's for real. I am a little suspicious of the whole GELATI thing. ANyone else noticed how vague he is about his machine? If I owned one of them, and was a business man, I would be more then happy to BRAG to everyone on this board about how I'm doing from a business point of view. Maybe even some testimonials from people he's used the machine for. Then again, this whole thing could still be a scam and we're just pawns in a great scheme (see Ponzi). Has anyone ever seen a machine, let alone one in action, has anyone ever looked inside the guts of one of these machines? Has anyone ever anything? Lot of NO answers. Like everyone else, waiting for something SUBSTANTIAL that is positive, or, waiting for everything to implode...