greg s, I think if you really consider the sentiment expressed on the GZFX board you will find that it is Ihub's strength. We have found that we can attract more paying members in that style environment. The board is only "free" in order to attract potential paying members. Hopefully, after experiencing the venue provided, they come to recognize that they can post without the fear of reprisal and denigration. Once they feel comfortable, they actually feel compelled to financially support what the Ihub experience has to offer. I hope you can appreciate this approach to doing business.