o.k.-you got me-i knew the setups were there, but i am really reading what you say...i see the new 1-7..#8 you watch for the Pass to the Base of the money mountain when aroon down crosses down over aroon up coming up in close proximity to 50 on aroon(8), and there's one or two days to cross the Pass. these 1 or 2 days are just before or during the aroon cross, and occur on the 5ma.the crossing of the pass is over when the aroon up stays at 100... hehe