Zeev, Looks like wecus has retired from charting the "Roadmap". The annual "Zeev's Outlook for 2006" is due. - revised edition of course (g) I recall you were calling for a "Grand Nassacare" sometime in 2006. (1400 or so) Do the turnips now have enough data to give us an updated thumbnail sketch of your 2006 outlook? May we see 3000 before 2000 in 2005? Curious minds want to know.