they have been dead wrong in the past, so who will believe the numbers given to us now next time?
I will. In the 2012 Investor Presentation, they guided for Rev= 145M, eps= 0.68, NTA= 215m, Earnings = 56m, WAOS= 70.5m. Except for the last point (as we well know, with WAOS expected now to be 87m in 2012), all the other numbers will probably be met or exceeded. So when they present their guidance for 2013, I ill be very inclined to believe most of it. Share count is not the only metric that matters for most LT investors. I would place eps and its yoy growth a few notches above that as a valuation metric.