George of course, and I fully agree with the turnip thesis. The point I was trying to make is that from this single indicator, it seems too early to use. I do not argue with the turnips, I try to learn from the theory of divergence and kinetic energy<G> and forks. Zeev and you also have helped me actually make money and learn. If it were not for this, I would still be "hoping ,waiting and praying" like many of my friends. I am just trying to better my understanding of each and every indicator! Thanks for your contribution. Rick