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What makes a person a psychopath?
By Michelle Castillo / CBS News/ July 25, 2012, 2:44 PM
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(CBS News) Ever since suspected gunman James Holmes' seemingly dazed televised court appearance Monday, speculation has run rampant on whether or not the man accused in the Aurora, Colo., massacre may have deeper psychological problems.
Chicago clinical psychologist Daniela Schreier told CBSNews.com that prior to Holmes' court appearance, some people thought he was a psychopath who used violence to make his mark on the world. However, after seeing him in court, she believes he may instead be suffering from a psychotic breakdown that happened as recently as this spring. Meanwhile, Marissa Randazzo, former chief research psychologist for the U.S. Secret Service and an expert in mass shootings, told Good Morning America .. http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/07/23/james-holmes-gave-no-indication-of-violent-delusions/ .. that Holmes' previous behavior didn't suggest he was a psychopath or a sociopath.
The court of public opinion following the tragedy also included many voices judging Holmes to be a psychopath. These people may be right - but probably not for the reasons that they think. The psychopath label has been used so much, it has become a broad term that's real meaning has been lost among everyday citizens.
"It's like a 'nervous breakdown,'" Dr. Michael First, a professor of clinical psychiatry at Columbia University, told CBSNews.com. "It's all these words that people use with no precise meaning."
"The word has been borrowed from a technical term," First added. "If a psychologist or a psychiatrist says it, it probably has a specific meaning. If a member of the public says it, it normally means a very bad person."
What the word psychopath represents clinically is a person who has a lack of what we would consider a conscience, according to First. A psychopath is seen to suffer from a lack of empathy because of psychological, genetic and environmental factors (whereas another commonly used term, a sociopath, suggests a person suffers the same symptoms due to sociological factors). Psychopaths usually have no guilt or remorse and tend to be self-centered. However, the term itself is not listed in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM) so it technically isn't considered a mental health disorder. Psychopathy does tend to be closely related to antisocial personality disorder, which is a listed condition.
As for Holmes himself, First - who is not involved in the suspect's care - said from
past experience and what he's seen of the case, he believes Holmes is not a psychopath.
"Nothing I have read about Holmes' history suggests he is a psychopath other than the crime itself," he said.
While many psychopaths are criminals, not all of them are are murderers, First said. For example, a psychopath might work for a corporation making money for shareholders. Their ability to bend the rules and trick people for profit are signs of psychopathy. He also pointed out that people commit murders for all kinds of reasons, including crimes filled with emotion like passion or jealousy. A psychopath however, wouldn't get overly emotional about his or her crimes.
"Having psychopathy is a trait where you don't worry about hurting other people," First said.
That doesn't mean we're overdue to see a killing spree lead by a bunch of psychopathic CEOs, Jon Ronson, a Welsh journalist who explored what it means to be a psychopath in his book "The Psychopath Test," said to CBSNews.com. In his research, he realized that when you look at the traits listed on the "Psychopathy Checklist, Revised (PCL-R)" created by Dr. Robert Hare - otherwise known as the Hare Psychopathy Checklist, the diagnostic tool most commonly used to determine psychopathy - only a very few items would suggest the person may be violent. Most of the terms suggest malevolence and include behaviors such as promiscuity, pathological lying, failure to accept responsibility for one's actions and a grandiose sense of one's self-worth.
"Psychopaths aren't psychotic," Ronson said. "They aren't suffering from illusions
or delusions. It's not a mental illness. It's what's been called a moral discrepancy."
"I think there's a huge number of psychopaths out there," Ronson added. "The vast majority are just walking around untreated and free, and that's just life. That's just the way things are. If they don't commit crimes, they'll most likely be lousy husbands and terrible husbands and philanderers, but that's just life."
In his research Ronson spoke to a woman, Mary Thompson Turner, who had been married to a man many people believed was a psychopath, Will Jordan. Jordan had told Turner that he was a CIA spy, but actually was a bigamist living multiple lives. Turner said that she didn't mind being married to a person who would never love her or care about her feelings.
"She thinks of herself as a wildebeast being chased by a lion," Ronson recalled. "It's the lion's nature, it's nothing personal. If you think that there are people like that out there, and you know that they're screwing you, you just have to be cautious."
Still, many psychologists told Ronson that they would advise against marrying a psychopath. First agrees.
"If you are with somebody so selfish or self-centered who puts their needs above somebody else - well I guess you're OK with that - but most people wouldn't consider that a reasonable marriage to be in," he stated.
But, it's those very traits that can make a psychopath so dangerous, First explained. People who know right from wrong feel pain from the families of their victims, but psychopaths don't really care what they are doing. In fact, they don't realize what they are doing could have lasting effects that would hurt other people because they are lacking certain aspects of humanity.
"If I found out that one of my friends was a psychopath, I wouldn't want to be friends with them," First said, "Not because of the diagnosis, but because they were probably exploiting me the whole time. Then again, why am I friends with a person like that?"
© 2012 CBS Interactive Inc. All Rights Reserved.
14 Comments - http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504763_162-57479224-10391704/what-makes-a-person-a-psychopath/
Two directly re yours .. first, a replacement for "Radio Interview: Ted Nugent 'I'm A Non Violent Guy, I Don't Threaten' (4/18/12)"
Ted Nugent: 'I'm A Non-Violent Guy, I Don't Threaten' [UPDATED]
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/18/ted-nugent-_n_1434830.html
yours is gone for "copyright infringement", and couldn't find it on YouTube
and some tidbit rehash from the next video revealing Ted Nugent who "literally shit his pants" to avoid
serving in Vietnam .. how did other prominent GOPers do it? .. Romney, Mormon ministry in France ..
-------- detour .. see also on Romney frenchie ..
i think that while in france, he met Beldar Conehead and had a mind-meld.
He had his Chappaquiddick moment there too, but the power of his father and the LDS church
got him out of it, and all he had to do was keep lying about it for the rest of his life.
Mitt Romney's Cult of Lying and Bishop Jean Vilnet
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=80679911
and
Did Jesus Foresee The US Constitution?
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=76212123
--------
GW Bush, reserves in USA, AWOL for a year .. Limbaugh, ass cyst (do those cysts ever leak
to the brain?) .. Dick Cheney, 5 deferrals, missed how .. Gingrich, stayed in school, in 1999
said maybe i should have gone .. Tom DeLay, minorities took all the well paying positions ..
here is that bit of your post again
Ted Nugent: Vietnam Draft Dodger
Published on Apr 18, 2012 by TheYoungTurks
In that 1990 interview with the Free Press and from information collected from the Chickenhawk Web site, Nugent told about how he avoided the draft: "He claims that 30 days before his Draft Board Physical, he stopped all forms of personal hygiene. The last 10 days he ingested nothing but junk food and Pepsi, and a week before his physical, he stopped using the bathroom altogether, virtually living inside his pants caked with excrement and urine. That spectacle won Nugent a deferment."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgUIx3zUesY
Feels superfluous as who wants more .. anyway, revisited just because i picked this one up earlier ..
Watch Now: A Collection of Stupid Shit Ted Nugent Has Said
By Matt Driscoll Thu., Apr. 19 2012 at 6:30 AM
[ page 3 of 3 ]
Ted Nugent and Glenn Beck are BFFs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asuVRmPGPac
Is it surprising to anyone that the Nuge and Glenn Beck get along so famously? Probably not. This is, however, believed
to be the only time in history the word "logic" and the name "Glenn Beck" have been uttered in the same sentence.
Ted Nugent Endorses Jeffrey Dahmer for Secretary of Treasury
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1lRZWjoqbk
In the Nugent administration it's believed John Wayne Gacy, the Son
of Sam and Albert Fish would also be offered cabinet positions.
Follow the Daily Weekly on Facebook & Twitter.
http://blogs.seattleweekly.com/dailyweekly/2012/04/watch_now_a_collection_of_stup.php
Oh well .. couple more ..
Ted Nugent: Armed robber and intellectual monopoly fascist
Submitted by AGORA on Tue, 04/17/2012 - 14:56 in
2nd Amendment - http://www.dailypaul.com/forums/second-amendment
http://www.tednugent.com/news/newsDetails.aspx?PostID=917643
"At this point Johnny and I yanked the canvas bag of merchandise and cash from his grasp and departed, returning backstage
to hand out the cheap imported booty to friends, crew members and charities. I used some as rags to clean my guns."
Who was it again Teddy, that produced the products, and who was it again that stole the products and gave
them away for free, thereby depriving the producer of his product? Ted Nugent is why people need guns.
http://www.dailypaul.com/227209/ted-nugent-armed-robber-and-intellectual-monopoly-fascist
Yeah ..
Fascist Ted Nugent: cut off voting rights for welfare people
Published December 5, 2012
Raw Story — Conservative rocker Ted Nugent is urging the Republican Party to “stop the insanity”
and insist that voting rights be suspended for welfare recipients as a part of a larger budget deal.
In his Monday Washington Times column, Nugent ranted that talk about raising taxes
on the wealthiest Americans proved that Washington was a “financial insane asylum.”
“What we need is a wholesale, top-to-bottom assessment of the federal government, and then we need to
slash and burn all Fedzilla departments, agencies and offices that are not constitutionally required
or deemed vital,” he wrote. “This should be fundamental before any deals are cut regarding new taxes.”
Read the full story
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/12/04/nugent-budget-deal-should-suspend-welfare-recipients-voting-rights/
http://grantjkidney.com/fascist-ted-nugent-cut-off-voting-rights-for-welfare-people/
While on this one i've been watching one of David Attenborough's
The Life of Mammals (G) .. rats in storm water drains are very
sensitive to the level of the water, when they feel the water
rising they move their babies to a higher hole in the wall ..
Yours is also linked here
Old ones of Ted Nugent in this one ..
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=82497412
The Muppet Show - Macho Man
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWLarBrwHF8
By Michelle Castillo / CBS News/ July 25, 2012, 2:44 PM
istockphoto
(CBS News) Ever since suspected gunman James Holmes' seemingly dazed televised court appearance Monday, speculation has run rampant on whether or not the man accused in the Aurora, Colo., massacre may have deeper psychological problems.
Chicago clinical psychologist Daniela Schreier told CBSNews.com that prior to Holmes' court appearance, some people thought he was a psychopath who used violence to make his mark on the world. However, after seeing him in court, she believes he may instead be suffering from a psychotic breakdown that happened as recently as this spring. Meanwhile, Marissa Randazzo, former chief research psychologist for the U.S. Secret Service and an expert in mass shootings, told Good Morning America .. http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/07/23/james-holmes-gave-no-indication-of-violent-delusions/ .. that Holmes' previous behavior didn't suggest he was a psychopath or a sociopath.
The court of public opinion following the tragedy also included many voices judging Holmes to be a psychopath. These people may be right - but probably not for the reasons that they think. The psychopath label has been used so much, it has become a broad term that's real meaning has been lost among everyday citizens.
"It's like a 'nervous breakdown,'" Dr. Michael First, a professor of clinical psychiatry at Columbia University, told CBSNews.com. "It's all these words that people use with no precise meaning."
"The word has been borrowed from a technical term," First added. "If a psychologist or a psychiatrist says it, it probably has a specific meaning. If a member of the public says it, it normally means a very bad person."
What the word psychopath represents clinically is a person who has a lack of what we would consider a conscience, according to First. A psychopath is seen to suffer from a lack of empathy because of psychological, genetic and environmental factors (whereas another commonly used term, a sociopath, suggests a person suffers the same symptoms due to sociological factors). Psychopaths usually have no guilt or remorse and tend to be self-centered. However, the term itself is not listed in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM) so it technically isn't considered a mental health disorder. Psychopathy does tend to be closely related to antisocial personality disorder, which is a listed condition.
As for Holmes himself, First - who is not involved in the suspect's care - said from
past experience and what he's seen of the case, he believes Holmes is not a psychopath.
"Nothing I have read about Holmes' history suggests he is a psychopath other than the crime itself," he said.
While many psychopaths are criminals, not all of them are are murderers, First said. For example, a psychopath might work for a corporation making money for shareholders. Their ability to bend the rules and trick people for profit are signs of psychopathy. He also pointed out that people commit murders for all kinds of reasons, including crimes filled with emotion like passion or jealousy. A psychopath however, wouldn't get overly emotional about his or her crimes.
"Having psychopathy is a trait where you don't worry about hurting other people," First said.
That doesn't mean we're overdue to see a killing spree lead by a bunch of psychopathic CEOs, Jon Ronson, a Welsh journalist who explored what it means to be a psychopath in his book "The Psychopath Test," said to CBSNews.com. In his research, he realized that when you look at the traits listed on the "Psychopathy Checklist, Revised (PCL-R)" created by Dr. Robert Hare - otherwise known as the Hare Psychopathy Checklist, the diagnostic tool most commonly used to determine psychopathy - only a very few items would suggest the person may be violent. Most of the terms suggest malevolence and include behaviors such as promiscuity, pathological lying, failure to accept responsibility for one's actions and a grandiose sense of one's self-worth.
"Psychopaths aren't psychotic," Ronson said. "They aren't suffering from illusions
or delusions. It's not a mental illness. It's what's been called a moral discrepancy."
"I think there's a huge number of psychopaths out there," Ronson added. "The vast majority are just walking around untreated and free, and that's just life. That's just the way things are. If they don't commit crimes, they'll most likely be lousy husbands and terrible husbands and philanderers, but that's just life."
In his research Ronson spoke to a woman, Mary Thompson Turner, who had been married to a man many people believed was a psychopath, Will Jordan. Jordan had told Turner that he was a CIA spy, but actually was a bigamist living multiple lives. Turner said that she didn't mind being married to a person who would never love her or care about her feelings.
"She thinks of herself as a wildebeast being chased by a lion," Ronson recalled. "It's the lion's nature, it's nothing personal. If you think that there are people like that out there, and you know that they're screwing you, you just have to be cautious."
Still, many psychologists told Ronson that they would advise against marrying a psychopath. First agrees.
"If you are with somebody so selfish or self-centered who puts their needs above somebody else - well I guess you're OK with that - but most people wouldn't consider that a reasonable marriage to be in," he stated.
But, it's those very traits that can make a psychopath so dangerous, First explained. People who know right from wrong feel pain from the families of their victims, but psychopaths don't really care what they are doing. In fact, they don't realize what they are doing could have lasting effects that would hurt other people because they are lacking certain aspects of humanity.
"If I found out that one of my friends was a psychopath, I wouldn't want to be friends with them," First said, "Not because of the diagnosis, but because they were probably exploiting me the whole time. Then again, why am I friends with a person like that?"
© 2012 CBS Interactive Inc. All Rights Reserved.
14 Comments - http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504763_162-57479224-10391704/what-makes-a-person-a-psychopath/
Two directly re yours .. first, a replacement for "Radio Interview: Ted Nugent 'I'm A Non Violent Guy, I Don't Threaten' (4/18/12)"
Ted Nugent: 'I'm A Non-Violent Guy, I Don't Threaten' [UPDATED]
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/18/ted-nugent-_n_1434830.html
yours is gone for "copyright infringement", and couldn't find it on YouTube
and some tidbit rehash from the next video revealing Ted Nugent who "literally shit his pants" to avoid
serving in Vietnam .. how did other prominent GOPers do it? .. Romney, Mormon ministry in France ..
-------- detour .. see also on Romney frenchie ..
i think that while in france, he met Beldar Conehead and had a mind-meld.
He had his Chappaquiddick moment there too, but the power of his father and the LDS church
got him out of it, and all he had to do was keep lying about it for the rest of his life.
Mitt Romney's Cult of Lying and Bishop Jean Vilnet
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=80679911
and
Did Jesus Foresee The US Constitution?
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=76212123
--------
GW Bush, reserves in USA, AWOL for a year .. Limbaugh, ass cyst (do those cysts ever leak
to the brain?) .. Dick Cheney, 5 deferrals, missed how .. Gingrich, stayed in school, in 1999
said maybe i should have gone .. Tom DeLay, minorities took all the well paying positions ..
here is that bit of your post again
Ted Nugent: Vietnam Draft Dodger
Published on Apr 18, 2012 by TheYoungTurks
In that 1990 interview with the Free Press and from information collected from the Chickenhawk Web site, Nugent told about how he avoided the draft: "He claims that 30 days before his Draft Board Physical, he stopped all forms of personal hygiene. The last 10 days he ingested nothing but junk food and Pepsi, and a week before his physical, he stopped using the bathroom altogether, virtually living inside his pants caked with excrement and urine. That spectacle won Nugent a deferment."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgUIx3zUesY
Feels superfluous as who wants more .. anyway, revisited just because i picked this one up earlier ..
Watch Now: A Collection of Stupid Shit Ted Nugent Has Said
By Matt Driscoll Thu., Apr. 19 2012 at 6:30 AM
[ page 3 of 3 ]
Ted Nugent and Glenn Beck are BFFs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asuVRmPGPac
Is it surprising to anyone that the Nuge and Glenn Beck get along so famously? Probably not. This is, however, believed
to be the only time in history the word "logic" and the name "Glenn Beck" have been uttered in the same sentence.
Ted Nugent Endorses Jeffrey Dahmer for Secretary of Treasury
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1lRZWjoqbk
In the Nugent administration it's believed John Wayne Gacy, the Son
of Sam and Albert Fish would also be offered cabinet positions.
Follow the Daily Weekly on Facebook & Twitter.
http://blogs.seattleweekly.com/dailyweekly/2012/04/watch_now_a_collection_of_stup.php
Oh well .. couple more ..
Ted Nugent: Armed robber and intellectual monopoly fascist
Submitted by AGORA on Tue, 04/17/2012 - 14:56 in
2nd Amendment - http://www.dailypaul.com/forums/second-amendment
http://www.tednugent.com/news/newsDetails.aspx?PostID=917643
"At this point Johnny and I yanked the canvas bag of merchandise and cash from his grasp and departed, returning backstage
to hand out the cheap imported booty to friends, crew members and charities. I used some as rags to clean my guns."
Who was it again Teddy, that produced the products, and who was it again that stole the products and gave
them away for free, thereby depriving the producer of his product? Ted Nugent is why people need guns.
http://www.dailypaul.com/227209/ted-nugent-armed-robber-and-intellectual-monopoly-fascist
Yeah ..
Fascist Ted Nugent: cut off voting rights for welfare people
Published December 5, 2012
Raw Story — Conservative rocker Ted Nugent is urging the Republican Party to “stop the insanity”
and insist that voting rights be suspended for welfare recipients as a part of a larger budget deal.
In his Monday Washington Times column, Nugent ranted that talk about raising taxes
on the wealthiest Americans proved that Washington was a “financial insane asylum.”
“What we need is a wholesale, top-to-bottom assessment of the federal government, and then we need to
slash and burn all Fedzilla departments, agencies and offices that are not constitutionally required
or deemed vital,” he wrote. “This should be fundamental before any deals are cut regarding new taxes.”
Read the full story
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/12/04/nugent-budget-deal-should-suspend-welfare-recipients-voting-rights/
http://grantjkidney.com/fascist-ted-nugent-cut-off-voting-rights-for-welfare-people/
While on this one i've been watching one of David Attenborough's
The Life of Mammals (G) .. rats in storm water drains are very
sensitive to the level of the water, when they feel the water
rising they move their babies to a higher hole in the wall ..
Yours is also linked here
Old ones of Ted Nugent in this one ..
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=82497412
The Muppet Show - Macho Man
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWLarBrwHF8
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