til 1-well hyrf has been tough on everyone! i went all over i hub, lots of frustrated buyers and sellers everywhere, back when it popped to .90 or so. what you are missing, looking at hyrf, is wms down at 50, BEFORE aroon up turns down.-if at the same time as the red candle, or after aroon up turns down, or the same time as aroon up is at 87.50, it doesnt count as a signal to sell..its gotta happen before. at least, as of now, i havent checked too many stocks yet. adx 10, i'm switching to only to monitor whether to stay in the trade or not...if d+ doesn't cross below 20, if it does i'm out. adx 5 kicks you out too soon, i think.. thats still 'a not sure' also.