"Jim is the reason we are where we are today---" Agreed that Jim was the point man but Keith had the votes to stop him. Assuming Keith hadn't himself drunk the Kool Aid it would have been a tough call. Tear the family apart or save the investors (including your own family) untold millions? I think, given the length of time that the unfolding disaster persisted, I would have had to have had a very serious consult with my delusional brother. Z