Maybe it's MY logic process, but I was going on the presentation of a stockholder meeting from 2 years ago when Keith was talking about the EPA projects, one of which was the energy recovery system. He was very happy to report that Torvec pumps could do a much better job because of the weight, cost and lower pressure efficiency. Skip forward a year or so and I see Eaton working with UPS. I thought Torvec was working on SOMETHING for school buses in that time, but I guess it was too busy getting new equipement installed.
If James thinks deriding ONE possible use of the vaunted Torvec pump for delivery truck energy recovery, means that all potential uses of that technology are not worth an effort by Torvec, then this company is in more trouble than I thought. He was much better off with the 'we are too small right now to pursue every path' line. Considering the coverage, sales and actual money that would come to Torvec IF they could get OUR pump working on any kind of car or truck, I would think it would be WORTH it. Don't tell me about how many school buses there are in the country that could benifit from Torvec and then not do anything about it. I KNOW the gearpack and the IVT are suppossed to be the school bus effort, but it's certainly big enough for large accumalator tanks/bags. I really don't care what kind of car/truck they put them on or what company they work with, I do care that they can't put some money and effort towards an idea they touted two years ago. Say you don't have the business organization to tackle THAT problem right now, DON'T tell me that it isn't worth the effort. How many trailer trucks are there in the world? How much money would they spend on something that would boost mileage? Even a non engineer can figure this out.
Look, the problem seems more and more obvious that Torvec is running into what a lot of small companies encounter. Someone hs a good idea and builds a company to a point where they need to start delagating responsiblities and start working as a team. Westinghouse was a marketer, he couldn't build a generator if his life depended on it. Tesla couldn't market free energy. Someone at Torvec ought to admit that they possibly aren't as good at product presentation, market research, and executive vetting as they are at engineering.
Keith had a heartfelt defense of James with his last open letter. Fine, good, everyone is doing the best they can and it's been wonderful in the past. Whatever. I hope there is a nice deal from Nissan with the Z-car and the Iso-Torque. Limited as it's market is. Nice eye candy, but definately a niche market. I'm guessing it's sales numbers vs Mustang or even Corvette are puny. If a deal is close, won't matter and it will be great news. Just not in the same league as a recovery system that would have the potential to save trucking lines millions as well as every school district with buses.
I think Torvec has some great WORKING machinery, but I'm real tired of the arrogance and stupidity of some of the public comments from management. It's one thing to ask for patience about companies that want to keep everything low profile, although how long you keep your widget under a basket so they can claim credit for it, might be debateable. It's another to mock ANY idea that would raise the public profile of this company. A company that touts videos on it's website. I take that as a desire for the world to see it's products. Maybe I'm confused about what 'public' means. The botched attempt at DARPA seems to indicate that someone at Torvec wants the world to notice them. So, I'm confused. I don't understand why some money hasn't been set aside to hire professionals to market this company. If that's what the $6 million spent on CXO-go away was meant to do, it didn't. Someone, like the people who found them and touted them, owes all of us an apology, not ridicule. But, I'm not an engineer, maybe in their world that all made sense.
Hey, I'm just tossing spitballs here. Just my opinions, take them for what their worth. I have some understanding of what it must have been like to actually get this stuff built and tested. That was an admirable effort. I admired it so much that I invested hard earned money into it. If people get upset because of anything I said on this board, too bad. Come back with some nonlame replies and I'll start cheering again. To say that there is some confusion about nonengineering aspects of Torvec seems to be a valid statement in my world.
I'm too impatient for my own good a lot of the time. I want Torvec pumps to work with energy recovery, IVT's or anything else. I'm sure that with enough kludges, Eaton can get their pumps to work and go to market with an energy recovery system that will make them a LOT of money. Ford's CVT may come up short against Torvec's IVT, but it is driving around right now, just like Audi's. Maybe a company so small and so thinskinned that they take the time to whine in public about something someone as insignificant as me says, can't compete in the marketplace. Especially when only 3,000 or so people know about them.
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