Tornado Alley (PROG)

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F6 .. brilliant linkage, yup, what a shame .. one deeper echo ..

"you guys just blew me off the wall with all that mayhem, fell all the way back to this ..

notes and quotes .. page 80, Missile Envy, Helen Caldicott ..

SALT11 was born and died .. '69-'72 .. Willi Brandt WG .. Ospolitik to non-aggression pact
WG and SU .. WG rec.EG as separated .. opposition country divided .. WG dipl. relations
Poland and Czechoslovakia .. now, another country divided .. 4 power agreement signed
in Berlin .. reduced E-W tension big heaps .. WG fears of a SU invasion totally disappeared ..

Sen. Mike Mansfield advised U.S. troop reduction in Europe .. but this frightened the Russians who feared EG
build-up in the void .. haunted by 20 million WW11 dead they initiated talks on Mutual and Balanced Force
Reductions, German troops must also be reduced; but for various technical reasons the negotiations never bore fruit.

Instead, the U.S. forces mysteriously were strengthened and the US contribution to NATO increased to $80 million
per year. In order to justify the build-up of troops and money America issued warnings of a Soviet blitzkrieg -
although at no time during the Cold War has Russia ever indicated that it would risk nuclear holocaust by invading WG"
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and more .. related .. most of, i edited out some LOLOLOL ..

[...] corruption in military contracts. That's new.

Have you read Helen Caldicott's, Missile Envy? (edit)

"A tiny electric connector plug for FB-111 air-
craft cost $7.99 in 1982 and $726.86 in 1983"

"A Minuteman 11 screw cost $1.08 in 1982 and
$36.77 in 1983 .. an increase of 3,300 percent"

p 275 .. Contractors had $11.2 billion worth of
equipment in 1981 furnished free by the Pentagon.
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also ..

Foreign Service officer and former Marine captain says he no longer knows why his nation is fighting
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War and Politics by Steve Coll October 26, 2009
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Top Ten Myths about Afghanistan, 2010
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dang .. i was looking for the post with pictures of people in Kabul back in these days ..

"A report in the San Francisco Chronicle (17 November 2001) noted that under the Taraki regime Kabul had been “a cosmopolitan city. Artists and hippies flocked to the capital. Women studied agriculture, engineering and business at the city’s university. Afghan women held government jobs—-in the 1980s, there were seven female members of parliament. Women drove cars, traveled and went on dates. Fifty percent of university students were women.”"
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===== .. almost caved in 2007-2009 "kabul" posts .. almost caved, then 2010 .. GOT IT!!!

Once Upon a Time in Afghanistan...

Record stores, Mad Men furniture, and pencil skirts -- when Kabul had rock 'n' roll, not rockets.



[...]


The physical campus of Kabul University, pictured here, does not look very different today. But the people do. In the 1950s and '60s, students wore Western-style clothing; young men and women interacted relatively freely. Today, women cover their heads and much of their bodies, even in Kabul. A half-century later, men and women inhabit much more separate worlds.

[...]



The education level of Afghanistan's cabinet today is far less than it was 50 years ago, when this photo was taken. Back then, most high-ranking government officials would have had master's or doctoral degrees. Western dress was the norm. These days, government meetings in Kabul are conducted among men, many with long beards, big turbans, and traditional garb.


These are snapshots of what we HELPED destroy (by paying & supplying the mujahadeen ) ..if this photo diary was updated it just might have a photo of the twin towers in it ..

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2010/05/27/once_upon_a_time_in_afghanistan?page=0,0
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===== .. sucked the Russians in .. oops! .. then us sucked in ...

As Carter's National Security Advisor

Main article: History of the United States National Security Council 1977-1981

President Carter chose Zbigniew Brzezinski for the position of National Security Adviser (NSA) because he wanted an assertive intellectual at his side to provide him with day-to-day advice and guidance on foreign policy decisions. Brzezinski would preside over a reorganized National Security Council (NSC) structure, fashioned to ensure that the NSA would be only one of many players in the foreign policy process.

Brzezinski's task was complicated by his (hawkish) focus on East-West relations in
an administration where many cared a great deal about North-South relations and human rights.

[...]

From the beginning, Brzezinski made sure that the new NSC institutional relationships would assure him a major voice in the shaping of foreign policy. While he knew that Carter would not want him to be another Kissinger, Brzezinski also felt confident that the President did not want Secretary of State Vance to become another Dulles and would want his own input on key foreign policy decisions.

Brzezinski's power gradually expanded into the operational area during the Carter Presidency.

[...]

He also appointed his own press spokesman, and his frequent press briefings and appearances on television interview
shows made him a prominent public figure, although perhaps not nearly as much as Kissinger had been under Nixon.

[...]

The Iranian revolution was the last straw for the disintegrating relationship between Vance and Brzezinski. As the upheaval developed, the two advanced fundamentally different positions. Brzezinski wanted to control the revolution and increasingly suggested military action to prevent Ayatollah Khomeini from coming to power, while Vance wanted to come to terms with the new Islamic Republic of Iran. As a consequence, Carter failed to develop a coherent approach to the Iranian situation. In the growing crisis atmosphere of 1979 and 1980 due to the Iranian hostage situation, the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, and a deepening economic crisis, Brzezinski's anti-Soviet views gained influence but could not end the Carter administration's malaise. Vance's resignation following the unsuccessful mission to rescue the American hostages in March 1980, undertaken over his objections, was the final result of the deep disagreement between Brzezinski and Vance.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zbigniew_Brzezinski#As_Carter.27s_National_Security_Advisor

Yup .. since the picture days Afghanistan has suffered at the hands of the West,
Pakistan, India and warlords .. for long enough .. yup .. Carter and Brzezinski ..

The Non-Return of American Isolationism
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.. rolling down there ........ spreading out ........

Can anyone else hear Bin Laden giggling? .. he isn't,
yet many Christians, and many Muslims must 'know' he is.

Others of us are content with believing he would be if he could be, and sick of the torture of Afghanistan ..