OT: Opening up your mind. I will try not to be condescending to you, but clearly you are not being logical. I asked about morality and your answer seems to indicate that you don't think there is a definition for it. The definition is simple. It is just discerning right from wrong. Then you go on to say, in effect, no one can determine what is right and what is wrong. But then you say that murder is wrong. Says who? Was murder of the Jews in WWII Germany wrong? Says who? Who is to say it is wrong? The Nazis didn't think it was wrong. Your argument is self-refuting. You can't say that murder is wrong without a reason. Who decides? You would be legislating your morality on others, the very thing you claim to be against. I can think of 100 examples like that. Is torturing babies for fun wrong? Says who? You? Me? Who are we to say? This issue of moral relativism is one of the biggest things screwing up the country. I suggest you think about it a little more.