CT, I would say with all the talk yesterday on the board about VFIN , they definitely tried to let us know that none of them were selling thru Bill Chaaban's interview. But you are right, They could certainly have gave ex: Joe Blow 50 million shares for .003 and they could be entering the market now. makes sense , Doesn't the company have to report this eventually? I'll be back a bit later Thanks Jx