Krays, your posts are honest and completely credible to me. I agree with you that if another lender could be found to take out YA, that could eliminate the long term death spiral risk and that is the best thing that could happen to NEOM. Then we could discuss whether the IP can ultimately be worth enough to pay off that refinanced debt and leave something for the common stock holders. As it stands the game is currently rigged where the all of the risk has been transferred from YA to stock holders.