Hard to say Sput. To me, it appears there is heavy selling when we get big news such as Time Warner. The stock should run up but instead gets sold down. I don't think the company would squash a run by diluting into the big news that everyone waited for. I could be wrong, but it appeared to be manipulated by outside forces. Frank had to do something to turn the tide, so he comes out with guns blasting, and hits with these stock tout reports to find new blood to bolster the price back up. You guys might be correct in calling a spade a spade against Frank on this, but I believe the supporters of the company were also correct in calling a spade a spade when they accused MMs of manipulating to the down side. Fight fire with fire even if both means are wrong. It is the end that counts, and I guess the stock price should be right where it is today, because that is where the market is valuing it, and that is supposedly how markets work. IMO-TW