The stock price needs to stabilize based on the pros versus the cons. MMs may have manipulated it to the lows, and Frank may have propped it back up with the stock analysts recomendations, but we are just in a tug of war between hyping and bashing. It is a shame the price cannot just stabilize on what the company is doing expanding the business model, versus the poor financials and share structure, without the manipulation BS one way to another. That is just from a long point of view. From a trading point of view, the manipulation both ways is great if one is a swinger. Irish? IMO-TW