just found this... what do you think, you guys are all into the metals and that, i don't really follow commodities to much.. i've traded gld twice.. lol anyhow. check this Canadian company out http://www.forbes.com/sites/katestalter/2012/01/09/a-better-etf-for-metals-investors/?partner=yahootix http://www.centralfund.com/ http://www.centralfund.com/Charts/chart/2012%20Topline%20Charts/Feb%2017%202012%20topline%20chart.pdf http://finviz.com/chart.ashx?t=CEF&ty=c&ta=0&p=w&s=l CEF - Daily Candlesticks stockcharts.com/c-sc/sc?s=cef&p=d&b=5&g=0&id=p29349702686