panther..do me a favor..I respect your opinion..you know that...but stop assuming! I don't assume CAGR is doing anything..I know what they are doing! I saw the post that was posted on another IHUB board when that picture came out and I was surprised at the verbage used to almost "beg" someone to help find out what this "man" had done...the term "man" was not used either! Do you realize that not "1" single poster has come forward with any DD regarding that situation and we spent a week on it? How do people live that way? I'm getting ready to dump a crap load of money into CAGR and I hope they send wine to every neighborhood in the world! I'm tired of having to make excuses for other peoples DD that can not be proven!