That's not my point, I'm saying they don't have the money to do anything. The next target is much deeper and will take a lot more money to get it drilled if they even try it at all. If they can sign another partner then they have a shot, but that will take months and then they will have to find another driller and the process will start all over so like I said this will be dead money for a long time. It will go back up as do most stocks after big drops, but there are alot of people that will have to wait a long time to even break even. As to underestimating Ray, how can you even begin to make that arguement after this fiasco?