well said Phis i can understand the concern, since we are trading in the pinks but, we can NOT consider all things equal, simply because one of the methods is the same APII is, for starters not a sub penny and that in and of itself says a quite a bit one look at CORE WAFER SYSTEMS and it's clearly apparent, this is no scam matter of fact, one look at what happened hear and it's pretty obvious this is a solid company w a good reputation for doing excellent work