Saturday, July 23, 2005 8:16:11 AM
wbmw, Intel will have multiple next-generation CPUs that will outperform the dismal expectations of the AMDroids. Can't wait to revisit this in another 5-6 months.
Yonah is the only next generation product 6 months from now. Paxville is 90nm. 65nm products in this timeframe are: Cedar Mill, a single core 65nm shrink of Prescott; Presler, dual core Cedar Mill (two dies in one package); Dempsey will not be in this timeframe but in order to make it complete Dempsey is Presler with bus arbitration making it suitable as Xeon MP. Presler and Dempsey will be 130+W. As Cedar Mill, Pressler, and Dempsey are derived directly from Prescott
Montecito will be the highest performing big tin processor at least for some time. But Montecito has little or no influence on Xeon/Opteron sales as it is only for the higher end big tin market (almost 600mm^2, EPIC software only, mainly so far as replacement for old big tin systems from HP). This is an AMD msg board so if your remark includes Montecito it is of little relevance.
Yonah will be the highest performing T&L processor for at least three quarters ('at least' as we don't have any performance info on Taylor). A lower power version of X2 however will be the highest performing DTR and the only 64b cpu in the mobile segment. Dual core Yonah though high performing in T&L is 32b only and because of it's performance and image it'll sell like hot cakes. Turion will continue to sell as well on price and 64b (only as small part of the T&L market).
All in all AMD will retain rather relevant power and performance advantages in the Opteron space. It's desktop processors will remain the best until Conroe at least (imo the advantage will stretch well beyond it though). That's two out of three major market segments.
Don't you think this is a bit more balanced than just using terms like 'AMDroids' and 'dismal'?
Regards,
Rink
Yonah is the only next generation product 6 months from now. Paxville is 90nm. 65nm products in this timeframe are: Cedar Mill, a single core 65nm shrink of Prescott; Presler, dual core Cedar Mill (two dies in one package); Dempsey will not be in this timeframe but in order to make it complete Dempsey is Presler with bus arbitration making it suitable as Xeon MP. Presler and Dempsey will be 130+W. As Cedar Mill, Pressler, and Dempsey are derived directly from Prescott
Montecito will be the highest performing big tin processor at least for some time. But Montecito has little or no influence on Xeon/Opteron sales as it is only for the higher end big tin market (almost 600mm^2, EPIC software only, mainly so far as replacement for old big tin systems from HP). This is an AMD msg board so if your remark includes Montecito it is of little relevance.
Yonah will be the highest performing T&L processor for at least three quarters ('at least' as we don't have any performance info on Taylor). A lower power version of X2 however will be the highest performing DTR and the only 64b cpu in the mobile segment. Dual core Yonah though high performing in T&L is 32b only and because of it's performance and image it'll sell like hot cakes. Turion will continue to sell as well on price and 64b (only as small part of the T&L market).
All in all AMD will retain rather relevant power and performance advantages in the Opteron space. It's desktop processors will remain the best until Conroe at least (imo the advantage will stretch well beyond it though). That's two out of three major market segments.
Don't you think this is a bit more balanced than just using terms like 'AMDroids' and 'dismal'?
Regards,
Rink
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