Yes they do. SFIO is not a paying member to the Dtcc like America Airlines. You bet the DTCC gives nonpaying members the snub. Thats part of the problem. Roth is NO more important to the DTCC than you or me. We mean nothing to these guys. We can disapear this very moment without them ever batting a yawn.
I've seen it first hand with my Scottrade Broker who is a paying member and then with my personal talks with another CEO in O2 Secure Wireless that is under a 504D share expansion Trade 4 trade restriction with the Big D. I have first hand knowledge of how the Dtcc Treats and respect request from a company CEO. The Dtcc is in a sticky spot with this lock.
@ Pit,
btw: I think you will find that a stockholder making a request for paper certs to the broker will find that after paying money, the broker WILL secure the certs., which are issued by the T/A.
Been there done that. Our T/A told me they would issue paper after gaining ownership approval from my Scottrade that I did in fact own. Its simple and My shares would be taken out of the O/S and mailed to me. $250 This is not some game, its real numbers. Once shares are issued out of the T/A they are removed from the float. But the company will not allow it. Why? No one does that in this time on electronic online trading. Kinda like retail people shorting Pinks.
I disagree issuing certs will do nothing. Maybe the first 100+ shareholders can get theirs, but its the last that will get stuck with 'failure to deliver' and thats where you deliver or refund the trade.
I own shares from way back and those probably have a soild trail of ownership but its the ones I bought on Vapor my Broker will not be able to untangle. I paid, I should be issued a refund. Where else in America can you buy something and not recieve compensation? Insurance industry? This is real property. This is too easy not to untangle. Scottrade knows they sold me vapor, where did that money Go? The shares don't exisist, but the cash didn't. Wish I could isssue vapor cash to buy stocks, LOL
If TS did issue unregistered over what the FED nailed him on, then SFIO was indeed some share selling scam and TS goes down as a typical pinky scam CEO and Roth along with Tammy Dunn has taken up the scam. Time to write it off and maybe donate the shares to tyhe closest Catholic Church. SFIO should remain with (SFIO). Forever.
I think from this point on, its uncertainty is still held within TS. He should come out and tell us shareholders the extent of his expanding the O/S, or A/S. If the unregistered expansion is limited to the sting, then whats the big deal? That would be an instant accounting since that is material evidance and those shares would be held out of the free tradeing float due to the investigation. I wish TS would come out with a 'come to jesus' statment as to how large this unregistered expansion was.
Does anyone think the shares they nailed TS on, made it into the free float? Did the Feds flip SFIO for a few quick beer money trades?
The only unregistered shares out there came from Market makers and if we all were allowed to request the paper, this would come to a head ASAP. I think TS has the power to turn this around for shareholders as a fairwell gesture. I know he must own Preferd shares and commons too.
Maybe SFIO doesnt have a buisness anymore. Maybe its dead at this very moment in time. But lets end this manipulation and expose those in the wrong. The DTCC is out to kill shell plays, Thats fact.
Lets not wait till ch13. I would much rather hold my paper SFIO as it dies and maybe help expose the 'Real Stock Market' than just watch this die in some restricted hole. Hell I have enough of those. None because the stock traded too much. This is beyond unique.
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