Tuesday, July 12, 2005 3:08:49 AM
Rice Rules Out US Troop Pullout From Central Asia
“I think that since Afghanistan is sovereign, since Afghanistan in fact has an elected president, who was elected freely and fairly, then the relationship we have with Afghanistan is with that government.” She argued US troops were still needed in the Central Asian country.
Rice is basing the U.S. reason for staying in Afghanistan on the false premise that Afghanistan is truly a sovereign country that recently held a legitimate election.
If Afghanistan was truly a sovereign country, then, of course, the least one could expect is that it would have the right to control of detainees on its own soil and to restriction of military operations on its own soil. Bush's response was to completely ignore Karzai's requests, saying only that U.S. operations in Afghanistan were on a "cooperate and consult" basis with the Afghan government.
Bush displays Karzai at the White House to trumpet the great democracy created in Afghanistan, introducing him as the first elected leader in Afghanistan in 5000 years (who was elected in 3000 BC?); at the same time, he makes it very clear that Afghanistan's sovereignty is a mockery and that it is no more than a colonial protectorate of the United States. And nobody wants to see a contradiction. Welcome to democracy in the 21st century.
#msg-6468877
Not only is Afghanistan not a sovereign nation but it is doubtful the election that installed Bush’s man, Karzai, was legitimate.
Thus we have installed our man in Afghanistan.
Originally UN officials estimated there were 9.8m eligible adults, and as the percentage registered climbed ever higher, the Afghan government and US leaders loudly praised this as an achievement for democracy.
When the total reached 9.9m UN officials in Kabul hastily upped the estimated total of voters to 10.5 million, arguing that, with no accurate census, the original figure could be up to a million out - due to the effects of war, civil strife and mass migration.
#msg-3904070
Putin blasted 'double standards' adopted by the US and the European Union on 'democratic elections' saying that it is well known that in Afghanistan 'sacks full of ballots were brought in from neighbouring Pakistan'
#msg-4937060
-Am
Rice Rules Out US Troop Pullout From Central Asia
Agencies Arab News
BEIJING, 11 July 2005 —
US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice yesterday rejected calls by a regional grouping headed by Russia and China for a deadline for US forces to pull out of bases in Central Asia, including Afghanistan.
The presidents of the six-nation Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO), which also comprises Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan, Kazakhstan, Tajikistan, signed a declaration at a summit last week calling for deadlines to be set on the closure of air bases used by US forces in Kyrgyzstan and Uzbekistan.
The bases were set up after the United States launched a military campaign to overthrow the Taleban regime in Afghanistan following the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks. Afghanistan is not part of the regional grouping and did not sign the agreement.
“The one country that said that the United States should stay in Afghanistan was Afghanistan,” Rice said on the last day of her visit to China as part of a four-nation Asia tour.
“I think that since Afghanistan is sovereign, since Afghanistan in fact has an elected president, who was elected freely and fairly, then the relationship we have with Afghanistan is with that government.” She argued US troops were still needed in the Central Asian country.
“There is still a fight going on in Afghanistan. The United States and others are training Afghan forces. The Afghan army is coming along. Its numbers are coming along. It’s capability is coming along. We’re training them in counterterrorism matters,” Rice said.
“But there are still a lot of terrorist activities in Afghanistan ... It is our understanding that the people of Afghanistan want and need the help of US armed forces.”
The SCO’s agreement reflects ongoing rivalry between Washington and Moscow over their countries’ respective roles in the former Soviet Union, as well as China’s apprehensions about US troops being stationed right next door.
Rice later arrived in Thailand’s resort island of Phuket yesterday to assess post-tsunami reconstruction efforts on the second leg of her Asian tour.
She begins her program today with a working brunch with Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra and meets with Foreign Minister Kantathi Suphamongkhon before embarking on a brief tour of the region battered by December’s deadly waves that left some 5,400 people dead in the kingdom.
http://www.aljazeerah.info/News%20archives/2005%20News%20Archives/July/11%20n/Rice%20Rules%20Out%20U....
“I think that since Afghanistan is sovereign, since Afghanistan in fact has an elected president, who was elected freely and fairly, then the relationship we have with Afghanistan is with that government.” She argued US troops were still needed in the Central Asian country.
Rice is basing the U.S. reason for staying in Afghanistan on the false premise that Afghanistan is truly a sovereign country that recently held a legitimate election.
If Afghanistan was truly a sovereign country, then, of course, the least one could expect is that it would have the right to control of detainees on its own soil and to restriction of military operations on its own soil. Bush's response was to completely ignore Karzai's requests, saying only that U.S. operations in Afghanistan were on a "cooperate and consult" basis with the Afghan government.
Bush displays Karzai at the White House to trumpet the great democracy created in Afghanistan, introducing him as the first elected leader in Afghanistan in 5000 years (who was elected in 3000 BC?); at the same time, he makes it very clear that Afghanistan's sovereignty is a mockery and that it is no more than a colonial protectorate of the United States. And nobody wants to see a contradiction. Welcome to democracy in the 21st century.
#msg-6468877
Not only is Afghanistan not a sovereign nation but it is doubtful the election that installed Bush’s man, Karzai, was legitimate.
Thus we have installed our man in Afghanistan.
Originally UN officials estimated there were 9.8m eligible adults, and as the percentage registered climbed ever higher, the Afghan government and US leaders loudly praised this as an achievement for democracy.
When the total reached 9.9m UN officials in Kabul hastily upped the estimated total of voters to 10.5 million, arguing that, with no accurate census, the original figure could be up to a million out - due to the effects of war, civil strife and mass migration.
#msg-3904070
Putin blasted 'double standards' adopted by the US and the European Union on 'democratic elections' saying that it is well known that in Afghanistan 'sacks full of ballots were brought in from neighbouring Pakistan'
#msg-4937060
-Am
Rice Rules Out US Troop Pullout From Central Asia
Agencies Arab News
BEIJING, 11 July 2005 —
US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice yesterday rejected calls by a regional grouping headed by Russia and China for a deadline for US forces to pull out of bases in Central Asia, including Afghanistan.
The presidents of the six-nation Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO), which also comprises Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan, Kazakhstan, Tajikistan, signed a declaration at a summit last week calling for deadlines to be set on the closure of air bases used by US forces in Kyrgyzstan and Uzbekistan.
The bases were set up after the United States launched a military campaign to overthrow the Taleban regime in Afghanistan following the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks. Afghanistan is not part of the regional grouping and did not sign the agreement.
“The one country that said that the United States should stay in Afghanistan was Afghanistan,” Rice said on the last day of her visit to China as part of a four-nation Asia tour.
“I think that since Afghanistan is sovereign, since Afghanistan in fact has an elected president, who was elected freely and fairly, then the relationship we have with Afghanistan is with that government.” She argued US troops were still needed in the Central Asian country.
“There is still a fight going on in Afghanistan. The United States and others are training Afghan forces. The Afghan army is coming along. Its numbers are coming along. It’s capability is coming along. We’re training them in counterterrorism matters,” Rice said.
“But there are still a lot of terrorist activities in Afghanistan ... It is our understanding that the people of Afghanistan want and need the help of US armed forces.”
The SCO’s agreement reflects ongoing rivalry between Washington and Moscow over their countries’ respective roles in the former Soviet Union, as well as China’s apprehensions about US troops being stationed right next door.
Rice later arrived in Thailand’s resort island of Phuket yesterday to assess post-tsunami reconstruction efforts on the second leg of her Asian tour.
She begins her program today with a working brunch with Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra and meets with Foreign Minister Kantathi Suphamongkhon before embarking on a brief tour of the region battered by December’s deadly waves that left some 5,400 people dead in the kingdom.
http://www.aljazeerah.info/News%20archives/2005%20News%20Archives/July/11%20n/Rice%20Rules%20Out%20U....
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