Waspi, Just to get things right. I looked back at my mailbox and cant find the post but i believe it was around early Aug. or Sept. but anyway you and I had different opinions on PGIE. You believed it was a "joke" (my word not yours) of a company and I believed it was a company that was getting a bad rap. Well please except my apology. I now understand your fustrations and come to see your views with better understanding and now read your post with a different outlook. You have never called this company a "scam" or never posted anything without proof of what you were writting and if you did it was always followed with "IMO". Good job on calling this Management out and I only wish I had taken heed to your warnings earlier. I would not be so far in a hole. Anyway I am in too deep to sell now and only hope it turns around one day so I can get out. Your new fan. King Zulu